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1966 Waterbury gig

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:12 am
by Sture
Hello everyone in Lennieland (anybody out there?)!

Does anyone have a recording of Lennies 1966 Waterbury gig? It it mentioned in several discographies, but I understand that it has never been commercially released. I have never heard of anything of Lennies that has been anything less than great and I assume this is no exception. Being a late recording of his makes it all the more interesting. His later stuff, like Con-Con and Stretch are among my favorites. If anybody is in possesion of this material, I should be very glad to know. If I could somehow obtain a copy, it would be for private use ONLY, of course.

Take care!

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:43 am
by Adam
Hi all - I'd also be interested in this gig. (or any others)
here's a tracklisting from the gig you mention
( http://www.jazzdisco.org/tristano/dis/c/ )

Lenny Popkin (ts) Lennie Tristano (p) Lou Stelluti (b) Roger Mancuso (d)
"Fantasy Lounge", Waterbury, CT, July 21, 1966
317 East 32nd Street
Subconscious-Lee
Background Music
You Can Depend on Me
Tangerine
Just Friends
I Can't Believe That You're in Love with Me
Feather Bed
Fishin' Around
All the Things You Are
My Melancholy Baby
It's You or No One
How About You?

Later

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:14 am
by Guest
Yes! I wholeheartedly agree. Someboby out there must have it (Lennie Popkin, Carol Tristano?). Presumably, the recording is flawed in some way, or I assume that it would have been released by now. Still, for a musician of Lennies stature - in my opinion he is every bit as great as Bird or Louis Armstrong, there is so pitifully little music released. I cannot imagine his work on these recordings to be anything less than great, and if the sound quality is poor or performance of the other mucicians is not up to par, surely that can be overlooked. Lennies playing evolved steadily over the years, as is evident on listening to his music from different periods. Another document of this later period wuold be valuable, I´m sure. Also, In his book on Lennie, Peter Ind speaks of recording frequently with Lennie in his east 32 street studio. This would be in the 1950s. Do these tapes survive, and if so, are there any plans of them being made public? All this is said with no disrespect to Lennies family or associates who know more about these matters than I do. This is merely a plea from a lover of Lennies music to those in possession of the tapes (if indeed they do exist) to bring it out. From such a master, every note is valuable.

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:51 am
by jostber
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:33 pm
by Guest
Hi Jostein!

This is very interesting! Descent into the maelstrom is an unbelievable record. A lot of that stuff is among Lennies finest, which is saying a whole lot! However, why not bring out some unreleased stuff as well? Pretty much everything the man ever recorded is, in my opinion, as great as gets. Tom Veyburn says that what was released on the Manhattan studio album is a very small portion of what was recorded and I assume that that goes for a lot of other stuff as well. Peter Ind speaks of Lennie recording all the time at 317 east 32nd street and wonders what became of the tapes. Note to note is an unbelieveable record, and one of Lennies later recordings. It´s very exciting to learn that there probably is more of this.

I realize that the fans of Lennie are all too few. But if the quality of the music is good, as Connie Crothers suggests, surely putting out at least some of these things must be possible. Making jazz records is of course a financial hazard. But we are talking about a giant here. Please give us some!

This is written with no disrespect the Carol Tristano and Lenny Popkin who hold the keys to Lennie Tristanos legacy. I`m sure that nobody loves his music more than you do. Peace be with you.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:50 am
by jostber
Here's an interesting thread regarding "Descent Into The Maelstrom":

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index. ... e+tristano

Seems like it will be rereleased by Jazz Records this year. I got mine from Hiroshi Tanno at EarlyRecords.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:20 pm
by Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject:

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This is very interesting! Descent into the maelstrom is an unbelievable record. A lot of that stuff is among Lennies finest, which is saying a whole lot! However, why not bring out some unreleased stuff as well? Pretty much everything the man ever recorded is, in my opinion, as great as gets. Tom Veyburn says that what was released on the Manhattan studio album is a very small portion of what was recorded and I assume that that goes for a lot of other stuff as well. Peter Ind speaks of Lennie recording all the time at 317 east 32nd street and wonders what became of the tapes. Note to note is an unbelieveable record, and one of Lennies later recordings. It´s very exciting to learn that there probably is more of this.

I realize that the fans of Lennie are all too few. But if the quality of the music is good, as Connie Crothers suggests, surely putting out at least some of these things must be possible. Making jazz records is of course a financial hazard. But we are talking about a giant here. Please give us some!

This is written with no disrespect the Carol Tristano and Lenny Popkin who hold the keys to Lennie Tristanos legacy. I`m sure that nobody loves his music more than you do. Peace be with you.

Re: 1966 Waterbury gig

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:45 am
by khushfehmi045
However, why not bring out some unreleased stuff as well? Pretty much everything the man ever recorded is, in my opinion, as great as gets. Tom Veyburn says that what was released on the Manhattan studio album is a very small portion of what was recorded and I assume that that goes for a lot of other stuff as well. Peter Ind speaks of Lennie recording all the time at 317 east 32nd street and wonders what became of the tapes. Note to note is an unbelieveable record, and one of Lennies later recordings. It´s very exciting to learn that there probably is more of this.